Is this what i think it is?

Skilldeft

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Just picked this up an hour ago, it was labled as a Panaque but i dont think it is. Its around 6" with small eyes and a lyre tail. He's pretty stressed atm and looks blacky brown but looks like he's darkening as he settles.

Sorry about the pictures, they dont really help much:



Gary
 

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Hard to tell from the pic. Additional pics would help but proportions don't look exactly right & eyes not "beady" enough. Also pics on PC totally lack any patterning.
 

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From what ive seen of L350 (which isnt a lot tbh) they have a more slender profile and body shape, the tail is different also.

Here are a few pics off a Chinese site, interestingly the title of the thread is L90b and L350. I think that yours is what they call L90b.

Heres a comparison between body shape.

Almost definitely L350 imo


What they call L90b


A comparison of the tails.



Heres the full thread , its long but if you have time to wade through it there are some great picshttp://www.aquariumfarm.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=105959
 

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Yup mine is almost identical to the second. Is there any more info on the L90b? is it actually a panaque?

I'm cleaning the tank tomorrow so should be able to get some better pictures.
 
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Is there any more info on the L90b? is it actually a panaque?
:eek:hmy: L090 is Panaque bathyphilus e.g the Papa B-) but luckily thats not what you've got.
If i recall correctly what you have is the Peru Longtail or LDA27/28 (L329) this is sometimes referred to as L090b it is a panaque but only reaches around 7"
Good find :clap:
 

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Not much help really, but I thought I'd mention it as L90b has been mentioned.
I bought a plec labelled as this, and he turned out to be L351.
Gecko from PF has a L90b - and used to have pics of him in his gallery.

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Here's the initial thread from PF. Not much help, but Cup talks about the different markings.
http://www.plecofanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15093&page=2

The conversation moved to Planet Cat. Will add the thread if I can find it. (Forgotten my log in over there!)

Both my L351 and Gecko's L90b have maxed at 7 inches - not including filaments.
 
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matubula

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:eek:hmy: L090 is Panaque bathyphilus e.g the Papa B-) but luckily thats not what you've got.
If i recall correctly what you have is the Peru Longtail or LDA27/28 (L329) this is sometimes referred to as L090b it is a panaque but only reaches around 7"
Good find :clap:
Very good, I can add that there is a bit of confusion in the Aqualog regarding all these possible L numbers. L329 and LDA27 are likely to be the juvenile form of LDA28/L90b, but as adults they are virtually unrecognisble in their 'breeding dress'.
 

Skilldeft

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Not much help really, but I thought I'd mention it as L90b has been mentioned.
I bought a plec labelled as this, and he turned out to be L351.
Gecko from PF has a L90b - and used to have pics of him in his gallery.

Edit.
Here's the initial thread from PF. Not much help, but Cup talks about the different markings.
http://www.plecofanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15093&page=2

The conversation moved to Planet Cat. Will add the thread if I can find it. (Forgotten my log in over there!)

Both my L351 and Gecko's L90b have maxed at 7 inches - not including filaments.
Thanks for the link Sam, looks like this isnt going to be as easy as i thought lol
 

Skilldeft

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Very good, I can add that there is a bit of confusion in the Aqualog regarding all these possible L numbers. L329 and LDA27 are likely to be the juvenile form of LDA28/L90b, but as adults they are virtually unrecognisble in their 'breeding dress'.
Also thanks Mat and Terry, I think i need to try get some decent pictures today and we can start eliminating some of these possible IDs.

Thanks for the input.
 

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Good find Gary, once you get a positive ID let me know. If its a Peru fish I'll get you some more.

My L350s & L90a are turning up on Tuesday, I'll get some pics once there settled.

Good Skills
 

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hopefully you will get some un-stressed pics soon and that will help. also if he comes on the glass try and get teeth pics. looks like a good fine anyway!!.
 

Skilldeft

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Right, after 2 weeks i managed to get a picture. It wasnt easy as he is very quick and my water is nearly black due to the tannins.



Just to add a few details that may not be apparent: He's around 6" plus tail , he's a dark brown/black, he has tail extensions and he's very hairy around his tail.

Thoughts?