Help in ID and Sexing 2 plecos!

[nxlxd]

Hello am new here but I really needed help with this! So for my life I thought this L201 snowball was a female based on the genitalia but someone is insisting it's a male so any help is much appreciated on that! Also separate question, is this a L399? Sorry for the multiple questions!

 

[L-ko]

Hi,

To distinguish the sexes of small hypostominae loricariids

Why should it be an Hypancistrus sp. "L399"?
L399 has worm lines, this one has dots.
Possibly Hypancistrus contradens or Hypancistrus cf. contradens "L 471".

Greetings
Elko

 

[nxlxd]

Hi,

Oh nono 2 separate fish but it doesn't allow me to send an image of the supposed 399 because it takes up too much space ,would you say that L201 is a female or male? I have read up on it but I still get a lot of mixed responses but I personally feel it's a female?

 

[L-ko]

Hi,

Then resize the image.


If you'd read the article on gender determination, you'd know that it's best to use an overhead photo - exactly overhead, so you can judge body shape.
It's also better to see for yourself, because there are always optical illusions in photos.

You can be lucky with the genital papilla. With your picture, a determination based on the genital papilla is not possible.

Greetings
Elko

 

[nxlxd]

Let's see if this works

 

[nxlxd]

Hi,

Seems like a female but thanks for the advice! I managed to post the suspected L399!

 

[L-ko]

Hi,

I don't see anything against l399.
But without an exact indication of origin, no one can say with certainty which wormline Hypancistrus it is.

Greetings
Elko