Go Back   plecoplanet Forums > Pleco Forums > Breeding Logs
Plecoplanet on Facebook

Notices

Breeding Logs step by step accounts of breeding attempts and successes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-05-09, 10:42 AM
cup's Avatar
cup cup is offline
Retired Staff
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 183
Gallery: 7
Helpful Posts
Awards Breeding LogsArticles
cup is on a distinguished road
Beating gee to it: an L-309 log

the tank

size: 20 gallon tall

substrate: fine pea gravel with a fine layer of sand underneath

decor: driftwood, lotta rocks, echinodorus, and at some point, anubias barteri.

caves: standard slate and some polished clay caves. Not ideal, but they work. I suspect a flattened breeder cone or something of the sort would suit them much better, but I have neither the time nor the funds to go find someone willing to do these.

filtration: two flval x2s. Also a powerhead with a prefilter

heating: ebo jager 150

maintenance: filters and water simultaneously cleansed twice a week

tankmates: lamontichthys stibaros, betta pugnax. L-309 is a shy species, imo, though quite interspecically pugnacious. Males scuffle a bit more than I would have expected. Tankmates were chosen so as not to be too competitive over food. However, once they get in the groove of things, they tend to be voracious eaters. New specimens can be difficult to acclimate. I'll be the first to admit this is an overcrowded tank, but maintenance is regular and I've got limited aquarium space. Bite me.




the fish

Two males and two females were housed together, although only one male currently fathers the spawns. They are pretty mean to each other, but no more so than some of the more territorial dwarf plecs (nothing like a pseuda or a full sized panaque). Food provided consists mostly of boiled canned peas mixed with flake food and carnivore pellets. I also toss in spirulina flake/wafers from time to time. The betta are incredibly ambitious eaters, so food has to be provided which does not suit their tastes. I tried zucchini, but no one touched the stuff, which is surprising to me. Fava beans are also greedily accepted. I lost a pair recently, and just received replacements.


male


female


spawning

Three spawnings occurred over a period of approximately six months. Females were very reluctant to be trapped, but the male was very gentle. Spawning was first induced by an unexpectedly cold late summer, followed by my fervent changing of the tankwater with warmer tap to keep the fish from freezing (the tank dipped to 70 F). The later spawns were not triggered. The tank currently sits at an even 80F, which is about as high as the pugnax prefer it, and it suits the ancistrus just as well. I separate broods from the male, as betta are notorious fry eaters (large, 5”+ wild pugnax all the more). Clutch size was small at about 20-25 eggs, by my best guess. About half survived my first attempt. I later kept the fry with the male until egg sacs were absorbed. Spawns remained small. I don’t usually like to disturb the rearing process, but the choice of tankmates leaves me with little other option. The fry proved for me at least to be incredibly challenging to raise. In the end, tossing them in with a bunch of similarly aged hypans and throwing them fistfuls of high quality flake has yielded the best results.


Fry darken considerably after release from the male's cave.
__________________
ヽ(▽`)/

Last edited by cup; 12-17-09 at 11:17 AM.
Reply With Quote
Did you find this post helpful?
FF MkIIthanked for this post
  #2  
Old 12-05-09, 11:32 AM
Irene0100's Avatar
Irene0100 Irene0100 is offline
UK Support Team
 
Join Date: May 2009
Irene0100's Flag is: UK
Location: Norfolk, UK
Fishkeeping Experience: Advanced
Breeding Experience: Intermediate
Posts: 4,271
Gallery: 188
Helpful Posts
Awards ArticlePhotoBreeding Logs
Irene0100 is on a distinguished road
very nice!!
well done
maybe you will some more / better pics to add to it sometime.
challenge for gee to write a log too.
__________________




Helpful information regarding the forum
FAQ/RULES
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-05-09, 06:05 PM
thegeeman's Avatar
thegeeman thegeeman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
thegeeman's Flag is: England
Location: In the house of gee
Fishkeeping Experience: Beginner
Breeding Experience: Beginner
Posts: 2,256
Gallery: 11
Helpful Posts
Awards Breeding LogsPhoto
thegeeman is on a distinguished road
Actually Cup I was hoping you would create a log for these as the breeding section is looking abit top heavy in my favour

Agree with Adults being really shy/skitish, I only need to open the lid of the tank and they freakout

I have only had the 1 spawn and still have 25+ fry from 40ish

Cheers

thegeeman
__________________
Carlsberg don't make external filters but if they did then they would make them just like
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-05-09, 06:09 PM
Doodles Doodles is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Doodles's Flag is: England
Location: Kent
Fishkeeping Experience: Advanced
Breeding Experience: Beginner
Posts: 8,786
Gallery: 175
Helpful Posts
Awards Picture of the Month Winner Jan 2011Breeding LogArticlesPhoto
Doodles is on a distinguished road
excellent log, thanks cup
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-05-09, 07:46 PM
cup's Avatar
cup cup is offline
Retired Staff
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 183
Gallery: 7
Helpful Posts
Awards Breeding LogsArticles
cup is on a distinguished road
"I was hoping you would create a log for these as the breeding section is looking abit top heavy in my favour"

__________________
ヽ(▽`)/
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:12 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Designed by: vBSkinworks