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Old 04-06-13, 15:27
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back to square one

ok if members reading this will scroll down 2 threads where it says ''loosing fish every 2 weeks'' that is my origional thread with all the info.

I treated with maracyn and maracyn II , lost my beneficial bacteria, tank finished cycling last week and no deaths during this process.

Until today..lost another one. Not sure if same symptoms of hanging at top for a few days because of heat wave 3 days here, i kept the lights off. But last night i noticed a platy sitting on the bottom, behind some rocks and this morning he was dead ( that part is part of the previous symptom). So I need ideas on what is going on in this tank. Please throw ideas my way..i am at a loss as to what is going on in my 30g. Please any suggestions would be sorely appreciated .

This tank is a death tank atm and I really want to move the fish from my 20g to the 30g so I can use the 20g as a q-tank and get more fish for my 54g. I can't move any until I know the 30g is safe .

Please HELP! thanks,
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Old 04-06-13, 18:05
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hi, sorry you are having such problems.
you say it is hot, what sort of temp is the water getting to?
are there many/any plants. maybe you could post a pic of the tank -perhaps it would give us some ideas.
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that sucks zeebo. hope u get it sorted soon..
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Old 05-06-13, 05:04
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hi, no live plants , just a few silk plants.

The heat wave was only 3 days , we have 3 AC's to cool off the house so the tanks with ligthts off stayed at 79d. This problem began long before summer started.

Will try to post a pic tomorrow.

My hard drive crashed and I lost all my photos.

tank has gravel bottom
2 hob marineland /biowheels -cartridges removed and replaced with clay biomatrix.
1 hydra-sponge filter
rocks, slate boiled before placement
9 fish left ( there were 10 when I began treatment)
light feeding-flake once a day
wc 20% weekly
vacuum monthly
pregnant platy but no babies (in the 20g there are lots of babies / no losses

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Old 05-06-13, 05:47
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Sorry its such a tough nut to crack.... I don't have a lot of experience with diseases because touch wood my tanks have always been pretty good once I got a good system going...But others here as you know seem to know a lot about everything fishy. I'll leave it to them to advise on diseases.

If the filters are cycled it seems that there should be enough biofiltration to rapidly deal with ammonia/nitrite spikes? Thoughts BigJohnnofish?

If it's just this tank that's problematic, are there any obvious differences? Like it's next to one of those silly air freshener things or near the kitchen and gets an oily film? Which makes me think, what is your aeration like? if your biological oxygen demand is high but there isn't enough gas transfer with the atmosphere you might get some nasty drops. I pump a lot of air into all of my tanks which seems to help.

Is the gravel thick without an undergravel filter? Could anaerobic dead spots be releasing hydrogen sulfide (from quite deep) or nitrite (due to lack of carbohydrate in denitrification reactions)?

I'm a firm believer that plants really help the ecosystem out, so go get some! Especially the floaters like amazon frog bit as they are not CO2 limited. Dont put duckweed in as you'll never get rid of it....
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Old 05-06-13, 12:13
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Hi all,
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I'm a firm believer that plants really help the ecosystem out, so go get some! Especially the floaters like amazon frog bit as they are not CO2 limited. Dont put duckweed in as you'll never get rid of it....
Would be my suggestion as well.

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Sorry for this news. I would set upnthe qtank and place all fish only in this q tank. The other tank i would start from normal from cleaning fully all flters , getting new substrate throw the other out and start from scratch. Sorry that is what i would do. Cheers jk
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Old 05-06-13, 15:19
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Sorry for this news. I would set upnthe qtank and place all fish only in this q tank. The other tank i would start from normal from cleaning fully all flters , getting new substrate throw the other out and start from scratch. Sorry that is what i would do. Cheers jk
thanks, jk, the other tank, the 20g is set up and has been for a very long time and has platy in there also, lots and doing fine and have babies. The problem tank is the 30g with 9 fish-8 platy and 1 celebe--very understocked.

Yes there is gravel, and could be possibly causing the problems. It is not too deep, say just under an inch.

well if i loose anymore I guess i will have to remove it . I can't remove the fish as i am not sure if they are carrying anything bad. The 20g fish are healthy. The 54g with the L128's is also healthy.

I purchased the 30g so I could get some smaller L's but this has got me stumped and to be honest ,pissed because i can't find the cause.

I do have a lot of aeration. 2 HOB's with water level lower. 1 hydra-sponge,and and air stone. More than necessary I think.

will try to set up photobucket again, my com crashed and lost everything so let me give it a try and see if i can post a tank pic.

thanks eveyone for your concern and trying to help me. taking advice .
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ok here is the 30g tank . hth
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Maybe your plastic plants are releasing toxic stuff ?
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