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Old 29-10-14, 15:30
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L264 eating protien only

hi guys, I have tried everything I can think of, putting his protein sticks into a raw zucchini, blanched carrot and green bell pepper . The first two weeks he got the sticks and munched a a little bit of the veggie. Now he removes the sticks (2) and wont touch the veggie.

I am concerned he will get bloat so I dropped se-shelled peas in few times and I can't tell if he is eating them--my guess is no. The rainbows and angel fish eat everything==inc the raw veggies at night in the dark.

Also , I have held back feeding everyone once a week. Any suggestions ??

ps . I don't know the name of the food as it came from the shipper with him, just In s bag.

any advice appreciated.
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Old 29-10-14, 17:25
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I know bloat is a real concern, but I don't think my breading group of L134s has had a veggie in over 5 years. I've tried everything you mentioned and nothing worked so I gave up. Never had an issue with bloat, knock on wood. The closest they come is if they eat any of the spirulina flake that makes it past my neons.
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Old 29-10-14, 20:01
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all in moderation, I find that all of my Ls eat a mixture of everything. sticks, pellets, deshelled blanched peas etc. I also only feed every 2days If I find some issue and this then works. cheers and good luck JK
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Old 29-10-14, 22:14
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Just stop feeding the protein sticks for awhile. It will learn to eat other food.
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Old 30-10-14, 15:08
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ok , thanks guys, I will just offer raw zucchini for a week and see how it goes. Thanks
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im still a little skeptical that protein food fed only to L-numbers causes bloat....

had a 397 fry at 2cm escape into zeb tank once and i didnt know till i spotted a big 397 in the tank around 7-8cm... then i had to think back to when i had a frysaver full of 397's temporarily in their tank and that was about 3 months earlier so not only did 397 fry survive it grew very quick too... i still have it and its with its parents in their tank but you wouldnt know it by looking at it now - same size as all other adults...

that zeb tank only ever received brine shrimp , daphnia , bloodworms , and a few other meaty offerings... no veg at all....

i think majority of bloat issues are caused by less than perfect water conditions and bacterial infections within the fish...

my 264's are fed brine shrimp , daphnia , viformo , sera flora flake.... there are a few royal whiptails in the tank also and never any food left in the morning

they look close to breeding too - caving and trapping quite frequently now...

same with common bristlenose never had bloat with them either... what happens when you find an old dead adult in their tank - the other b/n eat it till bare skeleton is left - no bloat follows...

once accidently knocked over a container of carnvor pellets into a b/n tank.... and only noticed it later that evening and nearly all pellets were gone... again no bloat....

i think your concerns of bloat arent warranted purely based on the 264's diet....
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Old 31-10-14, 23:32
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humm, that is very interesting....I was going by reading the old posts on bloat, then reading what that particular L 's food recommendation was and it seemed the herbavores were getting bloat more often when fed too much protein, so I have been cautious ,hence trying to train him to eat veggies too.

Well since you have had such good luck, I am probably gonna keep working on the veggie perhaps go back to the veggie with a stick so he has to eat some of it. He is a stubborn little sultan

Thanks for sharing your experience

ps I do daily 10%wc's in that tank and vacuum every Friday so the water is good and they are not swimming in their toilets !
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the only thing i have bloat issues with is 397 fry - sometimes they come out of the cave bloated before i have even seen them....

all bigger plecs have been fine with protein based foods...

might have to do an experiment one day to prove it... put 10 various fry in a tank x 2 and feed one meaty protein and the other vege based foods... and compare the results...
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Old 03-11-14, 18:22
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hi, bigjohn, I don't have any fry.

I did try something different , I made the holes in the zucchini very deep and shoved 2 sticks way in deep so he would have to eat some veggie to get to the sticks. It worked so far. thanks everyone , I appreciate all your ideas and replies !
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